1. Southerly, 1961

  2. Built: Oscar W. Schelin, Kungsörs Boatyard AB
    Construction: Carvel Wood, Mahogany
    Client: John Kipp / John Dayton, New York, United States

  3. Avocet, 1962

  4. Built: Oscar W. Schelin, Kungsörs Boatyard AB
    Construction: Carvel Wood, Mahogany
    Client: Maitland Edey, United States

  5. Allegra, 1969/70

  6. Builder: Custom Built, Cape Town, South Africa
    Construction: Carvel Wood
    Client: Seddon Cripps
    * “The boat was built at a place now called Marina Da Gama,or Lakeside, which is on the False Bay side of the Cape Flats near Simonstown. Mr Cripps was quite weathly,he did not build the boat himself but hired labour that had the skills,one such person was named Mr Cupido who had worked with a portugese boat builder named Mr Munna of Munna Boats, he specialised in fast ski boats in plywood” – Roy McBride, CKD Boats

  7. Andante, early 1970

  8. Builder: Custom built by owner, Cape Town South Africa
    Construction: Carvel Wood
    [Andante is reported to be lost at sea]

  9. Solitaire, 1971

  10. Builder: Brent Swain, Vancouver ,Canada
    Construction: Ferro-cement hull / Wooden deck
    Client: Brent Swain
    * “I bought the bare hull, built in ferro-cement, from a home builder in Vancouver in September 1969 and put a wooden deck and cabin on her. I launched her in September 1971, and set sail for New Zealand in August 1973, at the ripe old age of 23, singlehanded.” – Brent Swain
    * Solitaire was lost off Beachcomber Island, west coast of Viti Levu, 12 miles SW of Lautoka, Fiji, in August 1975

  11. Whetuara, 1970s

  12. Builder: Steel Yachts and Launches, Auckland NZ (now Mc’Mullen and Wing)
    Construction: Round-bilge steel
    Current Owner: Kris Stephenson
    Homeport: Auckland
    * “There are two I know of in Auckland NZ, Whetuara which I own and her sistership Hideaway both built of steel in the 70’s in Auckland. Mine is currently in the shed for a major refit. Both are based at Westpark, mine is in one of the sheds there and Hideaway is down in the water. From what i’ve been told both were built at the same time at steel yachts and launches (now mc’mullen and wing) sometime in the 70’s unsure of exactly what year though. – Kris Stephenson, Jul 2010

  13. Hideaway, 1970s

  14. Builder: Steel Yachts and Launches, Auckland NZ (now Mc’Mullen and Wing)
    Construction: Round-bilge steel
    Homeport: Auckland

  15. Toroa, 1979

  16. Builder, Hull and Deck: Edmundsons, Whangaporoa, NZ
    Builder, Finishing: Ian Nealy, Whangarei, NZ
    Construction: Triple diagonal skinned Kauri with outer layer of GRP.
    Client: Hugh Holroyd
    Current Owner: Will Lau (will@danger.co.nz)
    Prior Name: Saint Petroc (2003)
    * Interior deviates from the standard layout with a seagoing quarterberth.
    * Cruised South Pacific, Australia, NZ 2004-2007
    * Presently cruising in Hauraki Gulf region, NZ (Feb 2010)

  17. Narada

  18. Current Owner: Mory Creighton (mcreighton@pinlaser.com)
    Prior Name: Meridian (1997)
    Builder: Kittery Point Boat Builders (Maine, USA)
    Construction: GRP
    Client: ?

  19. Ruffian

  20. Builder: Kittery Point Boat Builders (Maine, USA)
    Construction: GRP
    Client: ?
    Current Owner: Martin Halpern
    Home Port: Jupiter, Florida
    Prior Names: Sea Urchin
    * Last reported to be in Tortola, British Virgin Islands (Feb 2010)

  21. Meerschaum

  22. Builder: Kittery Point Boat Builders (Maine, USA)
    Construction: GRP
    Client: ?
    Current Owner: ?
    * Last reported to be in Marion, MA

  23. Windrose

  24. Builder: ?, NZ
    Construction: Triple diagonal skinned Kauri with outer layer of GRP.
    Current Owner: Julian Warrington Smythe
    Prior Name(s): Intuition
    * “Formally called Intuition, she was built in New Zealand of Kauri and shipped to England in the 90’s I think. She was sold [2006] to Julian Warrington Smythe of Falmouth where I believe she still lies.”

  25. Allegria, 2000

  26. Builder: Custom built by owner.
    Construction: Cold-moulded, mahogany on cedar.
    Home port: Ottawa, Canada
    Owner: Dale O’Neill (daleoneill@hotmail.com)

  27. Known Unknowns

  28. * 1 other boat, hull built by Kittery Point Boat Builders (Maine, USA) in GRP

23 thoughts on “Pipedream 37, Record of Known Boats”

  1. John P. Kipp, Jr. says:

    Southerly was designed and built for my father and John W. Dayton, both called Jack. Mait Edey was also deeply involved and purchased the second one. Many long conversations were held with Frank Kinney about the designs. They were 35′ 5″ I think loa. All were friends on Long Island, NY and members of the Cold Spring Harbor Beach Club. Southerly spend summers in either the “martini circuit” – Martha’s Vinyard and Nantucket, or in Penobscot Bay. Perhaps five years ago, I think I saw the distinctive pipe carved into the hull on a grey hull in Camden, Maine. If anyone knows anything about that hull, I would love to hear about it. I believe I was the cause of Southerly’s sale to new owners because I graduated from college, entered the Navy, and was no longer my parents’ crew.

  2. Colleen Korona says:

    I have just purchased fiberglass hull number 3 that was built at Kittery. Original name was Saratoga, second owner named it Alta which I will change to Wren. Currently located in Melbourne, FL. I would love to get some information about the build from some other owners if possible.

    1. A. Alcroft says:

      Hi Colleen,
      This reply may be far too late to be useful, however my parents were part owners of Saratoga. A group of 3 families, all close friends, shared her. They bought it directly from the boat yard, and I spent much of my childhood sailing her all over Lake Erie. It never ceased to gather admirers in every port we visited.
      Please let me know if I can provide any helpful information to you about her.

  3. David Hill says:

    Hi

    Reference Windrose. ( Intuition) is there anywhere
    I can view photos.

    I am hoping she is the boat I once knew in New Zealand
    My uncle owned her she was berthed at Auckland Harbour Marina.

    I remember her being shipped to Uk and my (now Wife) and I took her ( mast down) through the French Canals actually lived on her in the Paris Yacht Harbour.

    I do hope we are talking about the same boat/lady.

    She was moored on the River Crouch Burnham on Crouch and also at Brighton Marina.

    I loved her. We had some excellent times on her.
    Perhaps someone can clarify she is the same boat.

    Pre Windrose.

    I did a search re Intuition and NZ and her location and found your site.

    1. Julian Warington-Smyth says:

      Hi David,
      I have owned Windrose since 2006 when I bought her from a Captain Potter who kept her in Salcombe. We love her and have had some great trips in her including this years Channel Classics race to Paimpol, France.
      We keep her on a deep water mooring in Falmouth. I have photos and would be happy to email them to you. My PC is playing up at the moment but I should get it back soon. If you could give me your email address I will use it for the photos.

      Best wishes Julian

  4. Will says:

    We received this note, but it was posted without a name or email:

    Just a footnotem to Andante. I am very sorry to hear of the loss and my sympathies to the family of the sailor.

    My friend John Crossley and I owned the boat between 1983 and 1988. At this point the boat was structurally sound but cosmetically it was a struggle to put right. The engine – an old Volvo was a disaster which we stripped out and replaced with a small Bukh. Under the influence of traditional sailors we reduced the electrics to a minimum.

    But we got in some really good sailing making two trips Durban to Knysna. The large cockpit was ideal for sleeping out under the stars.

    During that time we had some pretty rough seas and found the boat forereached safely under the trysail at about 60% off the wind. However once in shallow waters off Richards Bay we were badly pooped when running before a 50 knot wind. The sea had not had time to have really got up but any thoughts of sailing it across to Australia running before strong westerlies was dropped. The wonderfully big cockpit held a bit too much water.

  5. Bruce Howell says:

    Hi Julian,apologies for delay replying to your message. Would certainly appreciate any photos of Windrose / Intuition. Probably best to email me bruce@milton.co.nz

    It is fantastic that she is being well loved / and well used

    Happy sailing

    Bruce

  6. Gord Clements says:

    It’s wonderful to read more about the Pipedream. I purchased Avocet in May 2011 and have been amazed to find her in almost perfect original condition after nearly 50 years of use. The builders at Kungsors used only the best materials and the former owners have been very careful to preserve all the wood work including the Burma teak decks, full length Honduras mahogany planks and varnished Sitka spruce mast. She has been sailed out of Seattle, Washington, for the last 30 years but is now registered in Victoria, BC, Canada. As I understand, I am Avocet’s third owner.

    I’ve spent the last few months getting to know her and doing some minor maintenance. She does sail like a dream and at hull speed in anything over 7 or 8 knots of wind. I’m very pleased to read how well Narada does offshore and looking forward to doing some extensive cruising with Avocet.

  7. Martin Halpern says:

    Ruffian        Current owner Martin Halpern
    Previous name       Sea Urchin
    Home port      Jupiter, Florida

    1. Will Lau says:

      Thanks, we’ve updated the record.

    2. Mike Frederick says:

      Ready She Sails for Marlin Captain…I’m Feeling Good!

  8. Mory Creighton says:

    Great to see people contributing comments on the Pipedream.    We are the owners of Narada, and have owned her since 1997.  Her home port is Manchester, Massachusetts and she is sailed extensively along the coast of Massachusetts, Gulf of Maine, Bay of Fundy and along the Nova Scotia coastline.  This July, she will be racing again in the Marblehead to Halifax race (her 6th run in this race) and has placed well in her fleet over the years – even placing first several years ago.    Narada has been outfitted for long distance sailing and cruising and our family typically spends 2 weeks cruising on the Maine coast each summer in addition to many weekend trips. 
    She sails very well in our region.  Her sails are made by Doyle Sailmakers and she has a loose footed main that provides significant sailing power in most wind conditions.  We reef down and always try to keep the toerail just above the water’s surface.  The 135 genoa works well and once she starts to heel, her waterline increases dramatically and she moves well through the water.   With a spinnaker on a reach she is a great boat to sail.  Having experienced significant offshore weather, she responds well with a storm jib and trysail – we have not had an experience to run off with bare poles. 
    Over the last 14 years we have made a number of improvements to Narada which include; new sails, repowering with Westerbeke, rebuilding rudder and post system, new electronics, awl-gripping topsides, replacement of cockpit sole and steering system, constant varnishing of cockpit, cabin, lockers and toerail and many other improvements.  In the winter months (end of November to April) she is stored at Crockers Boatyard in Manchester.
    We have pictures of Narada that we would be glad to send if you let us know where to send them.  She is a wonderful boat that has carried us thousands of miles and will hopefully be a part of our family for years to come.

  9. J Warington-Smyth says:

    Bruce,
    I hope that you have found my comments that I have just added. We love Windrose to bits and she has had lots of attention recently. She is entered for the Classic Channel race in June from Dartmouth to Paimpol.
     
    I have plenty of photos which I could send you. Would it be easier to email them to you direct?  
     

  10. Kris says:

    There are two i know of in Auckland NZ, Whetuara which i own and her sistership Hideaway both built of steel in the 70's in Auckland.
    Mine is currently in the shed for a major refit.

  11. Tim Potter says:

    Hi, Just came across this blog. My dad used to own Windrose (formerly called Intuition) she was built in New Zealand of Kauri and shipped to England in the 90’s I think. She was sold 4 years ago to Julian Warrington Smythe of Falmouth where I believe she still lies. I have lots of photos of her if you are interested.

    Unfortunately my Dad (Keith Potter) died in 2007 but this boat was his obsession.

    Thanks
    Tim

    [Thanks Tim – I’ll update the records]

  12. Tim Potter says:

    Hi, Just came across this blog. My dad used to own Windrose (formerly called Intuition) she was built in New Zealand of Kauri and shipped to England in the 90’s I think. She was sold 4 years ago to Julian Warrington Smythe of Falmouth where I believe she still lies. I have lots of photos of her if you are interested.

    Unfortunately my Dad (Keith Potter) died in 2007 but this boat was his obsession.

    Thanks
    Tim

    [Thanks Tim – I’ll update the records]

    1. Bruce Howell says:

       Hi Tim, I was the builder / original owner of Intuition in the late seveties / early eighties. Great to hear she was your late father’s obsession – every boat desreves that. I would appreciate it if we could see some photos of Windrose, unfortunately we don’t have a lot photos of our own

      Many thanks

      Bruce Howell

  13. Dale O'Neill says:

    Will,
    Here is another addition to your Pipedream list.

    Allegria,2000
    Builder:Custom built by owner.
    Construction:Cold-moulded, mahogany on cedar.
    Home port: Ottawa,Canada.

    Thanks for the research.

    Dale O’Neill

    [Thanks Dale, I’ve updated the record – Will]

  14. Dale O'Neill says:

    Will,
    Here is another addition to your Pipedream list.

    Allegria,2000
    Builder:Custom built by owner.
    Construction:Cold-moulded, mahogany on cedar.
    Home port: Ottawa,Canada.

    Thanks for the research.

    Dale O’Neill

    [Thanks Dale, I’ve updated the record – Will]

  15. Roy McBride,CKD Boats cc says:

    Having just found Wills blog (great idea) I have phoned the Royal Cape Yacht Club,Cape Town, historian,Colin Farlam for more info on both Allegra and Andante,both are Pipedream 37 yachts.

    Colin tells me that Allegra was the first boat built,this was for a Mr Seddon Cripps,the boat was built at a place now called Marina Da Gama,or Lakeside,which is on the False Bay side of the Cape Flats near Simonstown.Mr Cripps was quite weathly,he did not build the boat himself but hired labour that had the skills,one such person was named Mr Cupido who had worked with a portugese boat builder named Mr Munna of Munna Boats,he specialised in fast ski boats in plywood,I met him some years back,nice guy.

    Colin thinks Allegra was launched 1969/70,I have found a refference to her in A History of the Royal Cape Yacht club by J S Rabinowitz,I have a signed copy of the volume given to me by Bill himself when the volume was launched.Page 436 notes that in 1973 Harold Sender,then the vice commodore and later commodore of the RCYC won a race in Allegra,Colin tells me Harold bought the boat from Mr Cripps,I saw this boat around 1975 before she sailed off.

    Andante was built by its owner,at this time I do not have his name but can find it easy enough given time as friends knew him and one sailed on the 1976 Cape to Rio ocean race,the owner was the skipper,his name will be recorded.It seems that Mr Cupido may have worked on Andante for the owner builder,as when it was found some floors were missing and she was taking on water,he was the person called on to do the repairs and add the missing floors,I met Mr Cupido when the boat was on the hard at RCYC and he was doing the work.

    The boats were built using Skenes Elements of Yacht Design by Francis S Kinney,I have my own copy and used that to determin floors were missing when I was doing cosmetic repairs for a new owner.A mould was taken from Allegras lead keel,the same mould was used for Andante.Both boats were constructed as in the book,carvel planked and very well done,no outer glass sheathing.

    More info when I have it.

    Regards

    Roy McBride
    CKD Boats cc
    Cape Town

    http://www.ckdboats.com

  16. Roy McBride,CKD Boats cc says:

    Having just found Wills blog (great idea) I have phoned the Royal Cape Yacht Club,Cape Town, historian,Colin Farlam for more info on both Allegra and Andante,both are Pipedream 37 yachts.

    Colin tells me that Allegra was the first boat built,this was for a Mr Seddon Cripps,the boat was built at a place now called Marina Da Gama,or Lakeside,which is on the False Bay side of the Cape Flats near Simonstown.Mr Cripps was quite weathly,he did not build the boat himself but hired labour that had the skills,one such person was named Mr Cupido who had worked with a portugese boat builder named Mr Munna of Munna Boats,he specialised in fast ski boats in plywood,I met him some years back,nice guy.

    Colin thinks Allegra was launched 1969/70,I have found a refference to her in A History of the Royal Cape Yacht club by J S Rabinowitz,I have a signed copy of the volume given to me by Bill himself when the volume was launched.Page 436 notes that in 1973 Harold Sender,then the vice commodore and later commodore of the RCYC won a race in Allegra,Colin tells me Harold bought the boat from Mr Cripps,I saw this boat around 1975 before she sailed off.

    Andante was built by its owner,at this time I do not have his name but can find it easy enough given time as friends knew him and one sailed on the 1976 Cape to Rio ocean race,the owner was the skipper,his name will be recorded.It seems that Mr Cupido may have worked on Andante for the owner builder,as when it was found some floors were missing and she was taking on water,he was the person called on to do the repairs and add the missing floors,I met Mr Cupido when the boat was on the hard at RCYC and he was doing the work.

    The boats were built using Skenes Elements of Yacht Design by Francis S Kinney,I have my own copy and used that to determin floors were missing when I was doing cosmetic repairs for a new owner.A mould was taken from Allegras lead keel,the same mould was used for Andante.Both boats were constructed as in the book,carvel planked and very well done,no outer glass sheathing.

    More info when I have it.

    Regards

    Roy McBride
    CKD Boats cc
    Cape Town

    http://www.ckdboats.com

  17. Will says:

    This is the complete list of boats I know of, I’ll update this list as more info comes to light:

    There are 5 other boats that may be in existence:
    1 boat – sistership to Southerly and Avocet built by Kongsors Yacht Yard in the early 1960s
    4 boats – from Kittery Point Boat Builders, Maine (USA), they built 4 hulls, finishing 3 themselves

    If you have further information to contribute please comment here. Thanks.

  18. Will says:

    This is the complete list of boats I know of, I’ll update this list as more info comes to light:

    There are 5 other boats that may be in existence:
    1 boat – sistership to Southerly and Avocet built by Kongsors Yacht Yard in the early 1960s
    4 boats – from Kittery Point Boat Builders, Maine (USA), they built 4 hulls, finishing 3 themselves

    If you have further information to contribute please comment here. Thanks.

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